Producing with headphones/speakers problem.

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Post LHM-18108 May 2009, 14:50

Hey!

I sort of got a problem.
A nice loop can sound like fuckin awesome in my headphones but really shit and dirty on my speakers. My headphones are ok, (price around 500 SEK =50 euro), and my speakers are shit (600SEK)

Is it my mixing that is really bad, and therefore makes it sound like shit on speakers?

Anyway...

could i solve this problem by buying like hd25 headphones?
I.e. if something sounds really nice in a pair of hd25.s, does it sound as awesome and pumpin with some pro monitors?

Thx for replying... i hope someone will reply!
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Post jeanp09 May 2009, 07:59

be shure there is no clipping at all in your output..
do u use active or passive monitors (do u have a addiional amp 4 the speakers)
make shure u dont have any eqing or even loudness set up to your amp wich feeds your speakers.

try to clearify your question.. what do u mean dirty?? is it distorted??
what kind of output do u have .. is maybe your soundcard wich is set up badly??

i would try to lower the volume of my soundcard wich is routed to the speakers, (actually you shouls somehow calibrate your system). 0dB (FS) in your system sould be 0dB on your monitor knobs .. if u got any clippings in your DAW than is pretty shure that you'll get a distorted output.
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Post LHM-18110 May 2009, 10:45

thx for the reply! I'll try to fix some of those things, though i don really know what you are talkin about (i dont have audio skills), but i will try to look the shizzle up!

with dirty i mean that my bass sounds messy and muddy on my speakers. But the bass sounds really clear on my headphones.

The problem is, should i "master" my songs so that it sounds good on my speakers or on my headphones?

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Post Laurent Wild10 May 2009, 12:22

Do you have 1 eQ by channel?
Do you use stereo panning?

Do you have a compressor + Eq on your bass?
Do you use sidechain?

Do you have compressor + Eq on your master?
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Post LHM-18110 May 2009, 14:14

I don't eq that much, but i sidechain benassi style (alot).
And i never really stereopan my shit, since its pretty irritating with headphones. I use a widener (s-imager), but maybe i should use more panning to get more space for clearer sound.

However, i am experiencing problems with the low frequency-region, and panning doesn't really help. I'll play around with some eq-ing and some mastering an maybe it gets better.

Thx for all the help. I'll uppload some shit so you can hear the results later.
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Post axwellfan10 May 2009, 15:47

I have a similar problem:
my track sounds cool on my headphones, but in the speakers it sounds cheesy!
should I compress or eq it? :) :lol:
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Post Laurent Wild10 May 2009, 16:11

For me the problem is the mix...

On my bassline i put a multipressor + Sidechain + Eq

If some of my synth are on bass frequencies, i duplicate my channel and i use s-imager (Left and Right panning).
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Post mnewman12 May 2009, 01:47

LHM-181 wrote:Hey!

I sort of got a problem.
A nice loop can sound like fuckin awesome in my headphones but really shit and dirty on my speakers. My headphones are ok, (price around 500 SEK =50 euro), and my speakers are shit (600SEK)
Maybe the problem is that your speakers are shit? I don't know what prices are like in sweden but KRK makes great affordable monitor speakers. I've got the KRK RP5 G2s
http://www.krksys.com/product_rokit.php
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Post LHM-18112 May 2009, 18:55

. wrote: Maybe the problem is that your speakers are shit? I don't know what prices are like in sweden but KRK makes great affordable monitor speakers. I've got the KRK RP5 G2s
http://www.krksys.com/product_rokit.php
Well it seems like the problem lies in my speakers.

But should i get some nice speakers or put my money on some top notch headphones.

BTW here is a sample of my latest shizzle, however i find it to sound bad in the bassfrequencies, whats your opinion?

mylatestshizzle.mp3
Ableton + ms20 + vengence
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Post Laurent Wild13 May 2009, 06:04

With the ms20 youhave MS20 fx or something like that, put it after the bass plugin and use the preset call "Low boost"...

Or put a multipressor on the bassline and try to set to get the sound you want.

Ps: Cut the bass on your hat under 1khz :lol: