Open your heart, shitty mastering?

General discussion concerning music, artists & labels.
ronn Send private message
Axwell digger
http://www.myspace.com/allnightronn
Posts: 75
Joined: 23 Apr 2008

Post by ronn » 14 Jul 2008, 13:09

Hi Ax,

I really miss those dynamics that trademark your sound mate. Played it out last saturday and there was hardly any Ax ooompfh!

Already noticed this in the studio but I gave it a shot regardless...

Cheers!
User avatar
daherbst Send private message
Administrator
Posts: 1946
Joined: 22 Apr 2008
DJ Gear: all about Pioneer

Post by daherbst » 14 Jul 2008, 17:20

Ronn - maybe you should ask you chef to buy a subwoofer...?! (or switch it on).
e=shm²
Axcellent!
VeniceBeatz Send private message
Axwell lover
Posts: 40
Joined: 25 Jun 2008

Post by VeniceBeatz » 14 Jul 2008, 17:23

Open your heart has the most umpppfff I heard inawhile when the bass of the synth kicks in. Amazing :shock:
User avatar
Iammesol Send private message
Administrator
Posts: 57
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, USA

Post by Iammesol » 14 Jul 2008, 18:25

It's definitely still extremely clear sounding, but it does indeed lack the punch a lot of his other prods have. Perhaps he didn't want it. It's not exactly a hard, banging, tech track.
ronn Send private message
Axwell digger
http://www.myspace.com/allnightronn
Posts: 75
Joined: 23 Apr 2008

Post by ronn » 14 Jul 2008, 18:30

Well, I got my copy from Beatport in WAV format so that def isn't the problem...

I actually wonder if Ax did the mixdown, to my ears it's more like dirty south did the knobwork on this one.

Don't get me wrong, I love the music, just the mixdown or 'sound' not so much...
ronn Send private message
Axwell digger
http://www.myspace.com/allnightronn
Posts: 75
Joined: 23 Apr 2008

Post by ronn » 14 Jul 2008, 18:31

daherbst wrote:Ronn - maybe you should ask you chef to buy a subwoofer...?! (or switch it on).
Check studio pics...I'm sure you'll agree I don't need a sub ;)
User avatar
daherbst Send private message
Administrator
Posts: 1946
Joined: 22 Apr 2008
DJ Gear: all about Pioneer

Post by daherbst » 14 Jul 2008, 20:53

Obviously you do - the track is made for the mainfloor - it's like 555 - the bass at the low frequ. is incredibble - you just need a sub which is able to play these loud enough!

I don't like the way you started this topic... "shitty, etc..."
e=shm²
Axcellent!
ronn Send private message
Axwell digger
http://www.myspace.com/allnightronn
Posts: 75
Joined: 23 Apr 2008

Post by ronn » 14 Jul 2008, 21:02

Regardless how I started the topic it sounds crap (oops here I go again ;)) COMPARED to other Ax stuff. I'm a huge fan don't get me wrong. I just feel it could have been much better soundwise...the proof is in his previous work right?

Plus, if Ax didn't do the mastering who am I criticizing anyway, it's no offence altogether...Guess it's a result of the loudness war...

Signing out, don't wanna tip-toe my words here (Dutch expression)
User avatar
daherbst Send private message
Administrator
Posts: 1946
Joined: 22 Apr 2008
DJ Gear: all about Pioneer

Post by daherbst » 14 Jul 2008, 21:14

Well at least in a way you are right - on a normal Hifi Station the track sounds a little bit thin... but in a PA - holy sh**!
e=shm²
Axcellent!
ronn Send private message
Axwell digger
http://www.myspace.com/allnightronn
Posts: 75
Joined: 23 Apr 2008

Post by ronn » 14 Jul 2008, 21:32

Ok, not signing out then... :roll:

For example, one mix I truly love in the club is Hard-Fi - hard to beat. The way the vocal sits is just amazing.

Now, if you compare that to Open your heart (vocal mix) you'll notice that around 02:00 just before it kick the vocal is totally swamped by the sweeping effects. And on a more recent release like hometown glory all just sounds wonderful.

Of course it's all a matter of taste in the end...I definitely can't do a better job so maybe I could've used some more friendly words for the topic. :oops: